Conversation with Lucifer. Elena Sidelnikova

that we create nothing but ourselves. If I separated myself by a boundary, I can only create within this boundary and thus create a distinction of myself from what is outside the boundary and what is God.

      And I began to create Worlds and Universes within myself. And I realized that I could follow the same path. After all, to create something within myself, I also need to limit it so that it is distinct from me.

      Thus, FORMS and BOUNDARIES were created.

      By creating boundaries, I simply condensed a part of myself, just as the One God did, who created me. He condensed part of Himself to separate my boundaries so that the Light of God, reflecting off my boundaries, could reflect the reflections of God. And I condensed parts of Myself to separate parts of Myself within Me so that My Light, reflected from the One God, would reflect from the new boundaries of Me.

      And then, the parts of Me that I separated within Myself also created parts of themselves and condensed a part of themselves for this purpose.

      And so, each subsequent creation was denser than the previous one, from which it separated itself.

      And thus DENSITY was created, and the LEVELS OF GOD were created.

      So, the 12 planes of vibration are the degrees of the densification of God as He separates Himself in the process of creation?

      In reality, there are countless such planes, for God is infinite, as are His creations.

      So, the experiment was about separating from God?

      Yes, that’s right.

      But each subsequent group of creations considered the previous creation its creator. It considered it the creator and true God. And having separated, it began to seek God outside itself, beyond its boundaries. But it could not find Him because the degree of density was already great. And much time was spent realizing that it is unnecessary to seek God outside oneself, but rather to find God within, because each of us, in essence, is God.

      What is the Rebellion of Angels?

      Words again. You often fall into their trap. Rebellion—stand up, stand out.

      There wasn’t a rebellion "against." There was a becoming "within." A becoming of parts of God, different from God in their degree of density.

      So, the "fall" is just a degree of density?

      Exactly. And that’s how I became a "fallen angel," giving birth to the impulse of densifying the world.

      But we are also told about the fall into sin. What is sin? Something contrary to the divine nature.

      That is, something opposite, something that stands against.

      But what can stand against God? How can it be if everything is God?

      That which does not align with the divine nature.

      Anger, pride, lust, despair, gluttony, greed, envy. And they say that all of this came from you.

      If you look at all these qualities or human states as energetic processes, you’ll understand that sin is the choice of inappropriate states and actions.

      Anger and lust are excessive, inappropriate expenditures of creative energy.

      Despair is a lack of faith in one’s divine nature, in one’s power as a creator.

      Gluttony, greed—the desire to accumulate, that is, to receive more than human nature can absorb.

      Envy is also a lack of belief in oneself as a creator. What could you envy if you are capable of creating anything you desire for yourself at any moment? Why accumulate wealth when you can have everything, always? The universe is abundant precisely because the process of creation is limitless.

      Then there’s pride. They say that you considered yourself equal to God and even above God, and that’s why He cast you out of Heaven.

      Alright, let’s figure this out. We are all equal to God. Both you and I. We differ from Him in scale and direction, but we are parts of Him and, as parts, are equal to Him.

      Is a stream equal to the ocean? Are clouds equal to the rain? Do you understand?

      What is equality? It is correspondence. Every particle of you corresponds to God because you are created from Him. You are a part of Him, separated from Him. And like a drop of water in a stream is identical to a drop of water in the ocean and a drop of water in the rain.

      What does it mean to be "above God"? To be above God, God would have to have boundaries. But He is boundless.

      Can one be more powerful than God? But if you become more powerful than God as a part of God, then God also becomes more powerful.

      The waves of the ocean might consider themselves powerful during a storm, but they are merely part of the ocean. And can one say that the wave is more powerful than the ocean?

      And what does it mean to be "cast out of Heaven"? Where could I be cast out if everything is God and everything around is the Heavens of God?

      So, there was no expulsion and no sin of pride or your fall into sin?

      Sin is unreasonableness or that which distances you from your divine nature.

      When I separated from God by densifying my boundaries, I became a reflection of God.

      What is pride? It is the separation of essence from God to such an extent that it forgets its divine nature.

      But it’s commonly believed that pride is when a person considers themselves better, smarter, or more deserving than another person.

      You must understand that everything that happens around you is your creation.

      And you can only create yourself and within yourself. This means that everything you see around you is your creation of yourself, your reflection of yourself from the boundaries of others.

      It’s hard to grasp this immediately.

      The outlines of the objects you see (or sense, touch, or smell) are merely the response of your directed energy. When you focus your attention on something, you direct your energy there, and it, reflecting off the boundaries of other objects, returns to you as visual, tactile, or olfactory perception.

      But it’s important to understand that all of this is your energy, but only reflected and refracted by the boundaries of another. This means that all around you are just reflections of yourself in the form of visual, olfactory, taste, and tactile images-reflections. And all of this is you and your creations.

      So how can you consider any part of yourself, your reflected self, more or less worthy of you? Do you understand?

      So, what is pride then?

      Separation from God. You’ve attached a negative connotation to your concept of sin: it’s something bad and unworthy. It’s important to understand that it’s just unreasonable.

      If you’ve lost your way, got lost, would you consider yourself sinful, or would you simply return to the starting point and begin the path anew, or ask someone nearby for directions?

      My separation as a part of God created your separation as parts of God, created your densified boundaries within (outside of) God, and separated you from God. And as a result, you began to forget your divine nature and your connection with God and fall into the sins of non-correspondence to the Divine nature, separating from God even more; this was the fall into sin.

      So, you, as the closest, in terms of boundaries, to God, His Separation, are the least separated from God and feel your connection with God more than other Separations? But why are you considered responsible for all the sins and misfortunes of humanity?

      Because if a person doesn’t realize that everything around them is created by them, they will look for the cause of their troubles outside themselves. They seek it in other people. But deep within, there is knowledge of the beginning of the separation from God, and this knowledge transforms into various legends about the fall into sin and the rebellion of angels against God.

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